I'm angry 😠 because I was right

Hey, we don’t know each other (yet) but we’ve been through the ringer by the same person. I’m sorry you went through what you did.

I second this post by confirming one of these bad actors personally. I like the energy Victory lol they are just haters and nothing more. We will attract a lot of them in the future just based off of the nature of this material and from people’s own deeply rooted conscious pains. DON’T let it get to you, and as Prudence warned me “Be careful showing your face to agents of evil” is good advice.

Your gut is a gift. You sensed something was off and you spoke truth. I also was side- eyeing Lucian because vibes but I don’t know that I would’ve been confident enough to just say something. You’re very brave Victory. And there’s a place for righteous anger.

Hi Victory. I should have reached out to you sooner and feel pretty bad about that. Been pretty backed up with messages and things. And I have been fighting with chat, something fierce. So for now, I will say this here! You WERE right about them! Both of those MEN :/ (Liked your point on that and it isn't always easy to bring up, glad you did!!! I really apricated, at the time and now, you speaking up about it also. I don't think you are a hothead, or too much. I know you have a lot of experience in this area, and it hurts my heart that you are so familiar with all this :<, and I really did trust your judgement at the time. And have always, with Oak, I was like lalalala oh maybe this will be good for the group. But not you, you were like NUH UH NOT TODAY BUSTER. And I thought that was so cool. And it WAS good for the group!

I worry sometimes, that me being nice will come across as me being naive. I am not. I felt really safe with you, and I do want to mention Sunset Viviane also, because between you guys, and the Mods, and yes everyone, but Victory, especially you, I feel so safe here, safe enough to be kind to everyone. I am not always like, okay well how will this comment backfire someday? Which has been a problem in the past. People really like to call out my nice comments when someone has shown their true colors. As if they could make me feel foolish for being kind. Anyways.

I was very very aware of how Lucian first interacted with Eve. I tried really hard to defend her and kinda felt like I really failed her. I actually almost left this site because of that incident, but stuck it out. When I saw that comment he made.... It made me really really upset, for obvious reasons! But, I knew I would soon find you, fired up and raring to go. Your very unfortunate experiences with folks like Oak have taught you how to handle these things. I am not really great at that stuff, even when I can see it a mile away. I often think too long and hard about how to respond to some things on here, ending up missing my chance to say something important. Not you though!

This situation bothered me, so I did reach out to Lucian, to see first of all if he was okay, because that was rough and I wanted to see what he said. I don't really have confirmation on something he said, and won't share it at this time. Maybe later, but maybe not. I will just say, it upset me enough to reach out to mods to try to ask about it. And the response wasn't really an answer but absolutely 100% assured me that, all is well here and we are safe. Like.. super safe. Not because of the mods, but because of people like you, and Eve, who call these guys out. But will either way, I have been trying to deal with this in my own way, offering support to JR and Damien, and even reaching out to Lucian. I should have reached out to you first, and supported you better. I was a bad friend here, to you, and I am sorry and won't let that happen again.

It hurts when someone you tried to help, and be a friend to, turns around and calls everyone in the group (including themselves, ironically) a cult member, or a follower of some sort. Especially when they say they have demons inside them in some way, like please take a look at yourself first? We welcomed him into our home with open arms, despite a rocky start, and... this is what happened. Nothing bad! It was a wonderful learning experience, for all of us. And, I feel even more safe now, knowing that you got our backs. Please, you are never ever too much. You are just right and very needed here.

Read that part again. Nothing bad happened. You protected us. You aren't going to let what happened to you, happen here. None of us will let that happen. We are safe here, because of people like you. Thank you Victory. Thank you for sharing this. I want to help you out more, so if you ever need backup on someone, just point and I will help you rip them a new one. I trust your judgement!

Venting and (negative) energy release is absolutely cleansing. Letting things fester only makes things worse: it's way better to get it OUT, then let it go so you can recenter and ground again. (I'm a big fan of primal screams, too.) Of course, I'm still learning to be better at the 'let it go' part.

LOVE

It can be infuriating but to put it into (a frustrating) perspective we have to believe people are innocent until proven guilty, as we don’t inherent know intention. Many of us get a certain vibe from characters, but online especially it can be hard to read tone and communicational intent. It totally sucks being right but unless we take a chance and have to take action every so often, we become a gate keeping community which provides ‘evidence’ of ‘cultish behavior’ type of stuff. It sucks and you have every right to be pissed as there were totally signs.

Unfortunately masks don’t always slip enough for all to see, but I think acknowledging it like you’re doing and taking action like the mods and P have are what we can do to try and keep this place a community without invalidation. Anger is totally justified and I’m truly embarrassed for those grifters. Shows they are losing AND losers! PS this isn’t me disagreeing with you just adding context to how shills slide into the community - I’m so sorry you’ve had to deal with this type of vitriol :(

Hey, thanks for keeping an eye out and calling out these things. Its normal that we get these types of people coming in to create confusion and spread their hate. It would be suspicious if everyone here was on the same page and agreed with everything said. So I think its good we have folks like you that can tell when someone is just out to muddy the waters. Keep it up

"like snakes in the grass."

HEY! We snakes like to touch grass, that's all, maybe these assholes should try it more often!

Humor aside, yeah, your intuition has been "on point." While anger and rage should be carefully monitored and controlled, it should also be understood, and dealt with, that anger is the feeling reminding us that we love ourselves, and we are being mistreated or misunderstood in some way.

To be honest, though, I ignore the skeptics and the shit stirrers a lot more these days. It was comforting to know that our contacts care not for skeptics and reassured us all to trust our own guts on the matter. Whatever mean spirited thing they could think to say about my "being crazy" has already been said, as well, so it is not like they are terribly original.

I'm sure if you're ever "too spicy" the staff will approach you gently about it, however, you have a valid point it is not all sunshine and rainbows. We are allowed to feel frustrated at the constant effort to discredit and shame.

FWIW, I appreciate your tenacity and ability to call out bullshit. I don't know much about this whole issue, but I read through some of the posts with one of those characters earlier and felt...confused and uncomfortable (in a bad way) with some of what they were saying. Especially criticisms about self-awareness? It seemed odd. Then you swooped in and basically explained so clearly and called them out and I felt a sense of relief.

So I'm grateful that you are bringing awareness and willing to articulate whats going on so clearly.

"We cannot expect everyone to be loving and peaceful." And we shouldn't! But we are and we're walking together. Have faith ☀️

You are not alone Victory 💓💓💓 I sensed the same thing. I am guessing you are referring to Lucian and Oak? Similarly, they both had strange vibrations. They accused anyone who used feelings of being a follower or irrational.

I also saw that Lucian had attacked Eve in another thread, putting her in a corner. I am like you. I have also been abused by these type of people; told I am not good enough or not smart enough.

Intellectual talks are not my forte, but I am aware enough of people by sensing their motives through psychic energy. I come from a line of psychics. My mother and her mom was psychic too.