So I have a confession to make. Or, maybe not a confession, but an imperfection to share. One of the things that I personally have wanted to work on is letting go of “being right” and “being perfect,” which means sharing when I’m being wrong and imperfect, so here goes.
Since reading Disclosure with Damien, the Extraterrestrial Tall Grey Alien, my hackles got raised. You see, I have a problem with someone claiming that they are the only one who has such and such bit of information (and yes, I see now that is not what this post is saying, but stay with me for a bit). When I was younger, I was initiated into a Daoist lineage. And if you know a little about modern Chinese history, these lineages basically had to become secret lineages (and maybe they were always kind of that way, where more knowledge could be given as one progressed). Regardless of the structure of the teachings, my teacher very much had this “you cannot learn the truth anywhere else” sort of attitude. And at that age (17), it scared me. I wanted to know the secret of how not not to suffer through life, and this person was saying that he was the only one who had that secret.
Luckily, that man was an asshole.
And I do mean luckily, because he pissed me off enough for me to say “fuck you” and “goodbye” in the same breath.
That happened to be the best thing I ever could have done for my personal journey.
What I learned is that NO ONE has all the right answers (because “rightness” is inherently situational). Everything he was teaching and more could be found elsewhere. Is having a good teacher helpful? Yes. But if anyone says that they are the only source of Truth, I am more than happy to walk the other way. Truth is it’s own source.
Now, I tell this story as a way to work through these feelings, and to reach out to anyone here that may have misunderstood like myself. After re-reading the above post with a clearer head, I came to realize that was not what Prudence or Damien were trying to convey. If I understood correctly (this time), Damien in choosing Prudence as a preferred contact, is talking about himself and a subset of greys (or maybe all of them? This was unclear.)
“Prudence is (MY) personal choice for established, ongoing, continued clear contact…”
“We are of but many. This was the decision for our group [concerning Prudence as our main contact]…”
I see the emphasis now. And I see Prudence was working to prevent the exact misunderstanding I had (that he was claiming to be the only one with access to certain information).
So of course the last large paragraph in the next post from C made me laugh.
“Damien’s words were taken out of context yesterday.” Yes ma’am they were. And I’ll take full ownership of that stemming from old wounds and do the recommended work of healing them, as she also said, “Forgive old wounds and those of the past, lest they have a grip on you, and you cannot function properly. Forgive those who have betrayed you and most of all, forgive yourself for being vulnerable.”
No truer or more apt words. Thanks C.
One a final note, I want to mention that I hope this can be a space where we can work through these things. I also want this to be a space where people can voice their own dissent (even if it comes from misunderstandings). I’ll make it clear that I am happy to disagree with Prudence and friends (and, while trying not to speak for him, I think he’d be quite happy about that). I hope this can be a space of unity, but not sameness.
With that out, back to work on merging science and spirituality.
Dynamic peace, my friends.
Thank you for sharing this, I have similar wounds and can feel triggered in similar ways. But ultimately that comes down being tired of all the gatekeeping and distortions and a sincere desire for truth. So it isn't wrong for us to keep watch for those red flags, even here. In fact, it is important that we do.
And I am in full agreement with your last paragraph. Misunderstandings and miscommunications are going to happen, and being able to feel free and comfortable to voice concerns when they arise is very important.
The neat part is, in the end, if this is a genuine place driven by love and the desire for truth, then we have nothing to worry about, everything will fall into place :)
It's my opinion that Prudence does his best to clarify information. What happened here has more to do with others taking his words out of context because of past hurts. I get that we have experienced disappointment but shooting the messenger isn't the way to go either. Prudence has been training for three decades with his contacts to prepare him for his mission. The dude sacrificed his life and was blacklisted in the real world. When you think about the requirements for that job, it doesn't sound that appealing to take on as one person anyway. The messages C was giving us was a perfect reflection for ourselves. We can point the blame at others externally because of what abusers did in the past. Prudence isn't an abuser. To believe so because of others doesn't feel right to me. I didn't get the feeling of being small. I read it as that's their guy for their mission. I have my own life mission and I don't need to replace Prudence for his role that he prepared his whole life for because I have my own path. This is the person I come to for my main source on this topic. There are others, but none that has done it for me like Prudence. I like my sources qualified personally. The kind of information we got from P and Damien is amazing. We got that for free too. If you ask me, I want someone qualified to give me info and the dude is that for sure. I never got the feeling he has all.the answers other than answers he has that he is trained to give.
Very well said. I think we can glean two things from this conversation: that everyone here in this community has been made to feel smaller than they truly are at one point in time, and that we don't talk about ourselves enough to others. It isn't selfish, and it helps us create bonds. As someone else said, you are all the main characters in your own journeys. Remember that one-ness is all-encompassing and not just at Source. You are the hero of your world.
Also, it is good that we can hold each other accountable and feel comfortable in doing so. Never be afraid to speak your mind here. We meet and speak in kindness, and if there is a misunderstanding, then there is no harm done in clearing up that misunderstanding.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I've noticed it helps a lot to talk aloud or write down your thoughts, your mind gets clearer. I also join you in what you said at the end. It tells a lot about this community when people here feel safe enough to share their weaknesses, vulnerabilities, doubts, shortcomings, insecurities... you name it, and then we discuss and learn from them in good spirit. This post serves as a good example.
I'm really proud of you guys. ❤️
I wrote a big thing and it deleted - but to summarize
I appreciate this post. I’m really sorry you dealt with the abuse and control of what should have been a welcoming and warm place to practice philosophy.
It’s so important to remember perception is relative and everyone has their own truth. I had the same reaction to those words when I read them so the clarification and others sameness was good to see. We all are the main characters in our own story and perception is relative and unique.
It can be hard to not feel attacked especially when places like Reddit and Facebook and stuff exist. Also important that we aren’t taking any advice from anyone at any level as 100% mandated truths on how to live our lives.
Stardust to stardust. Liquid to gases. (Trying to be clever there)
I've said it before and I will say it again, something to understand about The Greys is that, being the way they are, there is some difficulty in understanding their intentions and communications. They tend to come off very "blunt and/or pointed" as another contact pointed out.
It is not so much Prudence is the "only one" in contact with the greys as you figured out, it is more so that Prudence is that particular collective's choice in primary communication.
However, it is important to understand this in the context of what E spoke about, how this collective in particular, is constantly "putting out fires." As was discussed, Damien and his collective are wholly focused on "not having the world blow up in the meantime" due to human stupidity. This collective LOVES humanity, very much so, to the point they are...quite busy with us! I feel like this is an important reminder to some contactees that may feel "left out."
Let me reassure y'all though, You're not "left out."
There are other groups, yes, and some other specific missions. The one Prudence is assigned is rather specific. The goals for many groups and missions ultimately leads into the desired conclusion, however, out of the necessity of evolution.
I took the message to mean more so "don't lose sight of your own agency and your own mission just because Prudence is really important in his own way." Not all of us are meant for the kind of lifestyle Prudence's mission really requires, and that is OK.
Anyway, I wouldn't call that an "imperfect" moment. I would say the way this is all set up you are well within your rights to discuss your discomfort and processing of the issues.
I came very close to deleting this account and leaving when I read that. It did not help that the website is a bit clunky and I did not see that Prudence responded until 3 hours later. His behavior afterwards was affirming in that it was not consistent with the grift at all, so I'm glad I stuck around.
I don't know when I'll be able to let go of the pain that these feelings and miscommunication stemmed from, the pain itself was quite personality forming. But so long as Prudence is consistent in his messaging a phrase my friend said comes to mind: Mission Over Friction.
So I'll calm the friction I feel and ensure I still remain open - even if I'm giving things a bit more scrutiny now. Even if I'm not the biggest fan of some of the entities Prudence is communicating with the people here are still good and very much worth engaging.
Thank you for having the courage to write and share this. You put it quite well "I hope this can be a space of unity, but not sameness."It's very important for members of this community to feel that they can raise their questions, concerns and disagreements, if this is to be a place for seeking of Truth. My flares were also raised by that passage of Damien's words, the clarification was important.
Here's something I have mixed thoughts on for example: There was a point a few posts ago where a contact of Prudence's said that we are all (readers) being protected and later Prudence replied to a question with "If you KNOW nothing can harm you, then it won’t." This is... challenging, because there *is* truth to it, but, there's also alot more to it than just the power of belief, I think the advice is ok when speaking to a group of people as it encourages self empowerment and courage. I don't want people wandering into the wilderness thinking it's a garden like I once did, I want people to be informed and prepared so that they can go far and attain much.
I thought this was very well said and thank you so much for opening a dialog about it! Your history is very interesting!