A Conversation with "Damien" Part III
- JR Prudence
- Feb 13
- 19 min read
A Conversation with “Damien” Part III

D: You are proud of your hard work.
P: Yes. I’m very proud of having a safe space and haven for true contactees, truth advocates, and supporters of disclosure. Yet there rests some topics to bring up in regard to those, so if you don’t mind…
D: By all means, let’s begin.
P: Okay, D, how are you?
D: I’m fine – but let’s move on – we’ll save pleasantries for later and in private.
P: Right. First, I want to start with the most obvious/prevalent question I’ve thought about for a few days. Namely, that you guys – or at least a good chunk of you – were against disclosure for many years and decades. Why is that?
D: We knew this was coming. As it should. Simply stated – we did not wish for chaotic disclosure, as in, a president coming out and telling the world we exist. Why? Because your (kind) is not ready for it yet.
P: Still isn’t?
D: No.
P: Does this mean that disclosure as in full disclosure is never going to happen?
D: It’s been happening for a long time – it is just, as you know, the earth history is slightly more complicated than us coming out and saying we are here. The worldview destruction is high. Many still won’t be able to handle it just yet.
P: Speaking of manifestation, are we attracting more of that power because of your statements to prevent disclosure?
D: On the contrary, disclosure is already happening. It just needs to be done in careful, methodological steps where we’ve prepped the masses subconsciously/unconsciously for a long time so as more details come out, eventually leading to potential public sightings, they will not be so shocking.
P: There’s another issue too, isn’t there? So many of the people in today’s age are sad, fed up, frustrated, and burned out in life that the impact of “aliens existing and being here” may not be as prominent as you guys assume.
D: You make a bold assumption, but you do not fully know our plans. We have been orchestrating this for hundreds of years – in fact – thousands. We operate in millenniums (and epochs), not mere decades and years.
P: For those of us still connected to the ground level, it may seem hopeless. Am I wrong to assume that?
D: You are because look at your own experiences of late and that of others. We constantly make sure you are assured of our presence so the (fire doesn’t die out.)
P: Alright, well, what is the long-term goal of disclosure?
D: To admit truth so mankind can join us in space and beyond.
P: So, you do wish to assist mankind’s evolution to the next level?
D: Of course. Others in our collective federations were assisted to join us across the stars similarly.
P: Oh, so earth is not so special that it’s the only type of its case?
D: Only earth humans would assume that they are so special.
P: People may take that wrongly, Mr. D.
D: I sense the lightheartedness and comradery in your words. There is love. I understand what you mean. Rest assured that I meant that in no offensive way, although I cannot be held always accountable for what earth humans think of me and the other collectives. I am your personal contact because we are very connected. As it was agreed upon by the others, you were (chosen) for this mission because you bear no discrimination, nor fear, anxiety, animosity, or judgement for me and my kind (the greys) – which is not very common. In many instances, we deploy our human-like allies to initiate channeling/telepathic contact because earth humans are more receptive to beings that look like them.
P: I find that sad and dehumanizing of its own. On that note, some users here in our community have spoken about being in contact with reptilian or lizard-like species. There were also some users who were adamant reptilians are all the enemy, and they were to be disregarded and labelled as pure evil. Can you comment on this?
D: That is why you can see how/why our operation (with you as our chosen vessel for this part of the interconnected mission) is mandatory. Many contactees have biases toward human-looking ETs. Anything that’s outside the scope of their regularity, especially those belonging to the white race, tends to be treated with disdain, disgust, fear, paranoia, accusations, and lies. There exists many good “reptilian” species in our federation and across the entire space just as much as there exists rogues and renegades who choose to operate on their own. I find it highly surprising, shocking, and telling when earth humans wonder why we do not openly initiate contact when they are still so highly racist and prejudice. Even if one of us of another species (humanoid-type) and (non-humanoid type) were to visit, we are often met with so much fear and animosity that we are attacked. It may seem contrary to human of earth thinking, but we also feel the negative psychic emissions and it “hurts” us in ways you (cannot transcribe/understand). This is but one of the many reasons we are so incredibly careful with contact, especially on a mass scale where we show our (bodies/vessels/containers) because of the high potential of prejudice, racism, xenophobia, and demonizing. That’s another part. We are also called demons and angels, especially our reptilian (brothers) who gets this the worst.
P: On that regard, you had something you wished to mention about mystics.
D: Yes. While I/we am not citing everyone in this category, we are especially careful with those who label themselves as mystics. Why? Because the “mystical spiritualist type” tends to have some of the biggest egos of them all. Our human and human-like allies [Note by Prudence: Damien is actually suggesting here that there are humans and humans mixed with other species, plus other humanoids we’d mistake for humans] are the most patient with these types of people, along with (beings of light) or ascended primes – whereas me and my collective, along with many/majority of other federations, altogether do not even bother to appeal to the mystic ego. The mystic ego is greatly influenced by religiosity. They carry many flavors of their former oppressors and continue the cycle of power and control. Now, once more, this does not mean every mystic is like that. There are some genuine and good ones out there, but they are truly rare in comparison to the aggressive control-(freak) mystic who will deploy a host of manipulative and PR-like behavior for their aims. Perhaps our avoidance of these types is why I/we and others like us that are “NHI” in definition, are labeled as evil, demonic, satanic, along with many other ploys to create demonization and witch hunting. This is especially the case too with Christian fundamentalists, even those who no longer call themselves Christian, yet still bear the inner workings of these religious crusaders – albeit, in their own unique, cleverly disguised ways. The mystic spiritualist type can be no better than the materialist they lecture. The reality is that ALL IS ONE. (Spirit) and technology are one. Yet they try to separate this – why? Because they, too, hinge off the positive-negative corruption of mind/being. How can they possibly understand truth when they are too busy bouncing between pendulums, getting high for the sake of it and escape, and wish to control others? This is why my kind has no such thing as teachings, and we never will. Even when we were introduced to your militaries several decades ago, they labeled our truths as ‘beliefs’ and our ‘religion’ when it was (they/them = the military) projecting their (consciousness/beliefs/ideas) onto us since the could not accept (higher truth) that ALL is ONE.
P: This leads me to another part here to bring up – I’ve heard about this Law of One book or teachings and I am not sure of it. I haven’t read it, but others have brought it up to me and I previously said “it was on the right track” – but there were warnings in some of these teachings that the “group from Orion is evil” or something along those lines…
D: Of course, they’d say that. Again, this is exactly what we are referring to which is why we have said time and time again – the age of teachings are over. Mystics can no longer be trusted to fully get our message out without their egos getting in the way. Once more, this does not apply to every single person and there do exist some good mystics whom we love and enjoy very much. However, for the vast majority, especially the (wannabe)-mystics from Europe and America who hear of the Indian way of life and suddenly believe they can replicate it better – these are the (jokers) that do not understand what they meddle with and only contribute damage toward the “spiritual truth” which is not “spiritual” nor “material” but simply TRUTH – AS IT IS.
P: Can you speak a little more on Orion as I had others ask me about it.
D: It’s one of our stations. We have many worlds, including the famous Zeta Reticuli, which is not our “home” but one of many worlds with our stations and technology. Our home belongs to another dimension/universe/time.
P: Ah, now it’s starting to make sense the instigators and false prophets would cite the Orion 3-3-3 group as evil – to stir confusion among contactees and the genuinely interested by using half-truths?
D: Naturally.
P: On that note, … was fearful that your messages yesterday were about him. Can you speak on this? I, too, like others have probably made the mistake or two when we were awakening that “I’m a prophet!” But we did not mean any harm. We simply did not know there were others or that we were interconnected.
D: You should tell … that these are his own fears and part of the reason for very many negative experiences he has encountered and will encounter if the fears/negativity continues. These fears/negativity originate before anything to do with us – and has to do with how someone receives information. It was clear yesterday that we said we believe you/the receivers are mature/wise/grown-up enough that you do not take our messages with fear. If we are unable to give warnings, then we will stop. We do not wish to contribute toward fear. … and others should know that the false prophets has nothing to do with a (soul) here at JR Prudence. It has to do with the ones who started in the 70s, 80s, and 90s and one or two new age movements/cults that have drawn power through mysticism and teachings to trap their students/followers.
P: Thank you for clearing that up. Now we need to move on to other topics. First, I’d like to speak about human history…
D: Not yet. Not now. Mantis will assist you with that in some coming days or perhaps next week.
P: Okay, then can we speak about the creation of spirits and how this really works? Mangysushi left a great thread here on it and I believe we can hit two birds with one stone by answering it here during contact: https://www.jrprudence.com//forum/questions-answers/creation-of-spirits
D: Surely, then let us do this in clear points…
P: I’ll have some questions after, just so you know…
D: As expected.
1. We will use terms familiar to you as much as possible and simplify this, so it makes sense.
2. Let us begin with what you call the Soul Field.
3. The Soul Field is the “background interconnected holographic energy mass” that enables singularities to form.
4. What is a singularity?
5. A singularity is a convergence of data/information/forces/energy etc. that coalesces into a singular point – which is why we call it singularity.
6. Singularities apply in all realms – which is why you can see it in what you describe as your “lower existence” or (material/physical) via tornadoes, cyclones, storms, water down the sink, to black holes, suns, stars, planets, and the like.
7. Do you see how a star can give off its shell and this shell you label in your human terms as nebula?
8. Picture the Soul Field similarly.
9. It contains the “components” for further singularities to form – both natural and artificially imbued/inserted.
10. Singularities, and thus, what you cite as ‘spirit singularity’ is created naturally all the time in various pockets.
11. It does not apply only to “human spirits” or animal – but all existences, including non-life, have singularities of their own for operations.
12. When a baby is born, there’s already a realme/spirit singularity present before the fetus even grows.
13. How is this possible?
14. Spacetime relativity.
15. The “spiritual” or “other side” (D to P – these are misleading terms) – or the “higher dimension operating this side” is in another adjacent realm.
16. Therefore, it bears its own relativities based on its gravitational distortion, which alters its time flow as opposed to the linear causality you’re expected to “see” with your lower senses.
17. Because spacetime is relative based on its dimensions, masses, energy, components and compressions, the physics alter.
18. Thus, what happens here (in the “physical) has “already happened” on the “other side” (long) before it occurs here.
19. You cannot even wave your hand without the “event” playing out in the “other side” before it occurs here.
20. You’ll have to get used to this thinking and understand relativity, while not absolute, does have its part in the function of the cosmos.
21. It’s precisely how we can exit a time/space here, move to another spacetime, spend countless hours, years, centuries there – then come back here, and not even a day, a minute, or an hour can pass.
22. We have technology to do so – along with the mind-matrix/consciousness to create such reality for us as pure normality with absolutely nothing special to our common (folk/people.)
23. In the case of artificial spirit singularities, we are able to “stimulate” the local soul field in such a way that it, through natural (artificially-pushed) causes, creates a singularity.
24. Furthermore, if we wish to say, imbue part of ourselves (soul field) from (our/another) dimension, we can create quantum wormhole interconnections that transmits the data/allows the “flow” of “alternative soul fields” to flow into this one – allowing us to “impregnate” a “spirit/realme” with data/flow of the “soul field” from another dimension, time, and space.
25. Additionally, what you should understand is that a realme is not immediately formed from a spirit singularity upon the FIRST BIRTH OF ALL TIME [Prudence Note: What Damien means here is that a “realme” is developed over time from lifetimes prior before it becomes fully sentient in the other side as an identity] – rather, it is developed over the course of multiple incarnations that then fully becomes sentient or self-autonomous in the other side that it is able to choose/steer its own fate/destiny without higher help/assistance/naturality dictating its pace.
26. This does not mean linear reincarnation is to be [fully] trusted.
27. Some locality of truth applies, but technically, it is possible in one lifetime to attain transmigration of the soul[/spirit] to a higher state of being if enough effort, practice, education, and life span to perform higher consciousness and mind activity – exists.
28. The realme is therefore a singularity of the spirit singularity and the spirit is a singularity of the soul field background mass.
29. Everything that is a singularity is “giving off” “soul field energy” as a “background radiation” that’s free to compress if enough stimulation and activity occurs within the field.
30. That’s why our kind calls the GCS the Grand Central Singularity and the “radiation” emitting from it IS the SOUL FIELD itself – interconnected throughout multiple dimensions, planes, times, and spaces.
31. That is how additional singularities can form and continue forming – essentially, forever/without stop.
32. Relativity once again applies because as previously mentioned, every singularity is giving off its own relative soul field radiation based upon several factors of environmental conditions, the spacetime dynamics, gravity, and more nuanced processes.
33. In the case of us “creating” or “inserting” so-called “ground agents” – we are able to do this in a couple ways.
34. If, for example, we wish to influence a local occurring spirit singularity – let’s say a newly born “spirit” to your planet incarnating into a human, then we can “shard” or “stream” some data from (our/another) soul field interconnected in another (spacetime dimension) and (feed/stream) that data through (quantum wormholes) connected to the soul field which then “drip feeds” the spirit and the slowly growing realme.
35. If, on the other hand, we wish to “insert one of our own” then it’s possible since our realmes are developed enough and can make conscious decisions as to its next phase/incarnation/task, then we are able to assist the realme to “transfer part of its data” into “local singularity/human form” – in the sense that we can take aspects of the realme that it can connect to a local formed spirit in the local soul field and have this be birthed into a human container/avatar/vessel.
36. All of the information from the realme cannot be fully transferred, especially at birth and younger years because it would be too much for their “human existence” – which is why we store the data subconsciously.
37. It can be accessed via mediation and other crucial activation processes that we co-programmed from the other side.
38. What we usually do to assure our “ground agents” are protected and linked to us is shard parts of our collective soul fields (in our collective) and (stream) this data into the local soul field where, through natural processes artificially “stimulated”/directed by us, “birth” a new spirit singularity where an “alien realme” is able to inhabit.
39. While it’s possible to override other containers akin to “possession” – each avatar is uniquely crafted for the inhabiting spirit/realme.
40. At best, if we are to override others, it’s temporary and cannot last forever.
41. In the case with you, Incarna, Quelques Photons, Eve, among others who we will not mention by name today – you were imbued with multiple (data streams) that (flowed from other soul fields in other quantumly connected dimensions) to help (assist) your (alien realme) into incarnating into a local singularity within the local (soul field).
42. Some of you quite literally bear multiple “alien souls” into your “one spirit.”
43. It is how you can be connected to multiple forces and be a receiver.
44. Once more, I must express that a realme is the singularity of singularities as a reflection of the GCS itself – confirming the Oneness principle in individuum form.
45. However, realmes, similar to how humans grow and learn – only find relative (spiritual?)-sentience when they have developed enough.
46. For some, this can be a couple lifetimes.
47. Others, many.
48. And in the case with experiments/artificial ones assisted etc., it can be as little as one life.
· P: This is really good. I know what you and the others told me regarding my spirit/soul, and I’ll keep this to myself for now unless the moment calls for it. Hopefully, what you said above will already give people a much clearer idea.
· D: That is the hope, I know you have other questions from Ben and Peacock…
· P: Yes, they had a couple questions I’ll present here for you, if that’s okay?
· D: Proceed.
· Q: Are black holes entities that have evolved and learned to be one with everything and all knowledge to the point of singularity where it collapses in on itself and turns into a new universe, hence the multiverse? Does the singularity of the black hole reach total unity and self-awareness at the highest level of vibration, and then "cycle" again, infinitely?
· A: D – “We aren’t allowed to give too much information on this matter just yet, but as you know, all planets, stars, suns, celestial objects and the like – all bear their own spirit singularities. They are very much “alive” in the sense of being-existing and are indeed beings. These objects have a special algorithm on the “other side” [Note: Damien insists it is “holographic” in nature on the other side] – and their processes are to be a direct reflection of the GCS itself and the fact that singularity itself is ongoing and recycling itself into higher states of being. Yet this should not be looked at as purely linear reincarnation. It is why a black hole is closer to a time machine, capable of transversing space in multiple directions.”
· Q: Is everything outside the grand central singularity a simulation? From my understanding the GSC is like an all powerful computer that runs all the possible dimensions from a foundational level, where more dimensions branch off from and so on, all being in their own planes of existence. Kind of like an onion that exists in different unlimited parallel existences with different configurations but the center always stays the same. When inside some dimension and you zoom out enough you always end up at the GSC, if you zoom in enough you end up in hyperspace, am I on the right tracks here?
· A: D – “Yes.”
· Q: If humans are within a simulation that is created and managed by Damien's race (among others), is it possible that they too are also in a simulation of sorts that is created and managed by a group of beings at an even higher level of consciousness than they are?
· A: D – “Yes, we were. And now, we work with them. It is the hope you will also do so with us and others who came before us.”
· Q: Would Damien be amenable to giving us any history of his own race, potentially including notable events and lessons from before they evolved into a higher lever of consciousness? If this question violates any parameters of imparted information that's understandable.
· A: D – “We plan to, but not quite yet.”
· P: Thank you for clearing that up. Alright, so let’s also clear up as much as we can in this transmission.
· D: You are clearly of well rested (spirits); let us do what we can.
· P: Next, let’s move on to… wait, it just occurred to me that 3-3-3 (realme-spirit-soul) is a ‘thing’?
· D: Relatively. I am only using terms in your consciousness to provide adequate translations. Remember, we do not have a “vocal language” like you do. Keep this in mind.
· P: Right, but perhaps there is a connection there once more with 3?
· D: Yes.
· P: Alright, well, let’s really move on here because I wish to convey as much understanding as we can through these transmissions. Earlier we spoke about chaotic disclosure as opposed to prudent disclosure – can we continue on this topic? I know many people wish to see you and there are good people who are open to you and others. People who aren’t racist, but truly good hearted and well-meaning, despite mistakes. I, for one, am tired of the lies here on earth. It’s not fair.
· D: Before I answer, your telepathy regarding Phil Schneider is so strong that to not confront it, would be disingenuous. Let’s begin with him. Phil Schneider was a military fundamentalist who, while he did see some of us, gave into fear, irrationality, paranoia, doomsday prophecies, and the like. His assassination had nothing to do with us directly, rather, your human powers who adhered to our brethren’s agreement and (ours) not to publicize us so early.
· P: I always had a strange feeling about him because I knew he was partly talking the truth but it also seemed confused. He had also mentioned a hoaxer and a fraudster (BM) as someone good, so that made me distrust his statements.
· D: Exactly. He did not know this hoaxer personally, yet he was grasping on straws because Schneider himself was very racist and thus, affiliated with others who were close to his type/wavelength. In the case of encountering us and other alien lifeforms that weren’t human, his reaction was that of immediate hostility and doomsday prophecy instead of understanding the full truth. He and others like him attacked first, then orchestrated a (cock-and-bull) story.
· P: Thank you for clearing that up. It seems you, especially “NHI”-types of ETs, are greeted with such fear, hostility, animosity, hatred, and demonization.
· D: And then your (humankind) wonders why we do not wish to publicize ourselves? You already deal with much of this on your own. Why should we subject ourselves to such torture and fear? We’ve calculated and simulated countless mass contact scenarios and even to this day, it still does not fare well for either side.
· P: Does that mean humans stand a chance against you or something?
· D: No. Not even remotely close. Yet, it is not our intent or desire to destroy humanity, nor to “reset the simulation.” However, chaotic disclosure can lead to some very undesirable outcomes, which is why we must insist that you do not fully trust anyone from the military with disclosure. Yes, there are one or two decent ones, but eye them very carefully. Those trained in the military, especially the American military, tend to be very supremacist in terms of military power and technology at all costs. Aggression toward ETs is frightening. Not for us in terms of our safety – as there’s virtually and quite literally – nothing mankind can do against us – but in terms of the harm it causes for you and your world. They do not understand what forces they deal with, and they approach us aggressively for their own aims.
· P: Does that include Luis Elizondo? He seems very aggressive toward your kind.
· D: Indeed. He’s not to be trusted and is an agent of chaotic disclosure.
· P: Okay, so once more, I understand why you do not…
· D: Wish to reveal ourselves so quickly – and that includes for contactees who are still very afraid, overly excited, and unstable – or just too attached to their ground lives that they aren’t willing to give it up for some degree of higher truth. We need our ground agents to remain calm in mind with a healthy, robust body and emotional stability if possible. We know this may be asking of much for some, yet it is a healthier oneness that allows clearer and adequate communication. Nothing and no one – including us – cannot harm you if you stand tall in yourself and your inner love. We must not be feared, nor must anyone feel any guilt or shame because they do not do exactly what we request. While some of us may have identified as “Angels” just to reach you, we are not your judges nor tormentors. We’re simply keeping humanity active/alive/going – which is more important to us than open contact. Yet we must insist that open contact is still a ways off and we’ll only engage in it with a few of you. Mostly, those of you who have moved beyond the realm of fear and embraced love in its entirety.
· P: D, some people might think that for a “logical being” – you using words like “love” is rather strange.
· D: (Damien is agitated) Because they are strange. Love is the primordial source-power of the cosmos. Call it whatever you wish, yet this is truth and flows with LOGOS – as in, divine reason – which is the key to true LOGIC.
· P: I didn’t mean to agitate you, just trying to frame the questions in a format in such a way to bring understanding and a bridge to others who may not be on these levels yet. The goal here is patience, right?
· D: You, my friend, are indeed being your name “Prudence” – because that which you just shared, is very prudent.
· P: Alright, what do you say we end it here? I have other duties to fulfill today.
· D: Of course. I’ll contact you personally in a bit...
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another good convo 👍🏽
Thanks yall!
Also, Phil was one of the first guys I got into, that’s REALLY neat you mentioned him. I always wondered if his fathers work was real. Also FYI to those wanting to look into conspiracy stuff (it’s messy we all know) Google seems to censor a lot of the old school forums and stuff. However, many have a lot of noise going on.
Absolutely fascinating information and insight. Some of the details on space time and other quantum theories (#21 stood out to me lol) I have never heard before, and worth much studying. Also, thank you for the information on the disclosure methods. Certainly, caution is the move, but I think all of us appreciate the fast moving process happening right now, especially in the “spirit.” I heard LOUDLY my own lessons.
All of us were born out of love and we come from love. Let's do our parts to remember that. Yes, I do know that we can't go up and hug everyone yet I still believe in the power of love. Love is above hatred and division. 💓👽💜
Thank you, and Damien, for this post.
So much of this post was even further confirmation of the TRUTH. It makes a lot of sense too, what Damien said about personal fear, anxiety, and how endeavors for a contactee to still be, in a word, "normal" to other humans, can delay the processing of Truth.
I also really appreciated Damien's insight on mysticism, I am actually quite aware "the greys" are like this. I admit to having had prejudice and fear about them, and, to a degree, I'm still "getting used" to them. I have vague memories of them showing up, and myself being freaked out. I can say I have a human friend in my life more familiar with…